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Tuesday, December 17, 2019
"the 63 thing"?!
"the '63 thing"?!?!? Wow---this is thick in irony: a reporter calls former Secret Service agent Roy Kellerman (who failed miserably on 11/22/63) to get his thoughts on the quick reactions of the agents who saved President Reagan on 3/30/81. The reporter's comments about how Kellerman put his "personal harm aside" would be comic if not for being such a tragic event.
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Saturday, December 14, 2019
In response to Denis M.'s criticism of Roger Craig
Not Craig. Note the color of the pants...and it just doesn't look like him and, ultimately, it cannot be proven that it was him anyway:
You wrote "Murray 1-19 allegedly shows Craig (which I doubt) at 12:40 PM looking at the station wagon seen in the previous photo. "
A good thing you doubt it--it's not him. In fact, it looks like James Tague.
Using a horrific-quality clip, you state at 1:17 that "a man looking like Roger Craig"...uh, it's not. An infinitely better quality clip of this exact film was used in The Men Who Killed Kennedy (I just saw it last night. I think it was in The Witnesses; one of the early ones) and the man is a reporter with a pen and pad to boot:
The rest of your page baffles me--unlike with the Babushka Lady, your Roger Craig page seems to (very) begrudgingly corroborate Roger, THEN you seize on a small discrepancy or what someone ELSE said about Roger, etc.
-you depicts several photos/ film excerpts acknowledging it is ROGER CRAIG;
-"he was very credible in the first days following the assassination.
Indeed. This sort of reminds me of Peter Whitmey's blood lust in trying to debunk Jean Hill, who did undoubtedly exaggerate some things. However, at the end of the day, many of the essential details of her story/ statements ARE corroborated by what she said via the media/ television/reports (shot from knoll, etc.);
-My conclusion is that Craig did see a man looking like Oswald getting into a car.
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Jim DiEugenio wrote:
Roger Craig was correct about there being an Oswald lookalike coming down the embankment. This was corroborated by both photos and witness testimony.
He was correct in the initial arrangement of the shells, as is corroborated by Alyea and an interview with Mooney by Mary Ferrell in 1975.
The Argentine Mauser is stamped with the 7.65 calibre on top, as proven by David Josephs.
There were differences between what was in printed testimony and what was originally said before the Commission. (See Barry Ernest's book about Adams.)
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Yes. Craig's original statements (the reports based on them) are very good and hold up well.
I would stick with the Babushka Lady, Denis. I went over your page several times and I failed to see how Craig was making up stories. Quite frankly, several of your photos are misidentified (not Craig). It sounds like you have a specific bone to pick with Roger and anyone who goes against the Dallas Police, Sheriff, or FBI point of view. In addition, I am not convinced at all by several of your arguments/ time 'synchronization' with regard to photos.
Also (as one of literally millions of examples): Hall of Fame baseball legend Roberto Clemente was often called both negro AND Latin; not an error to refer to someone as one or the other.
Not Craig. Note the color of the pants...and it just doesn't look like him and, ultimately, it cannot be proven that it was him anyway:
You wrote "Murray 1-19 allegedly shows Craig (which I doubt) at 12:40 PM looking at the station wagon seen in the previous photo. "
A good thing you doubt it--it's not him. In fact, it looks like James Tague.
Using a horrific-quality clip, you state at 1:17 that "a man looking like Roger Craig"...uh, it's not. An infinitely better quality clip of this exact film was used in The Men Who Killed Kennedy (I just saw it last night. I think it was in The Witnesses; one of the early ones) and the man is a reporter with a pen and pad to boot:
The rest of your page baffles me--unlike with the Babushka Lady, your Roger Craig page seems to (very) begrudgingly corroborate Roger, THEN you seize on a small discrepancy or what someone ELSE said about Roger, etc.
-you depicts several photos/ film excerpts acknowledging it is ROGER CRAIG;
-"he was very credible in the first days following the assassination.
Indeed. This sort of reminds me of Peter Whitmey's blood lust in trying to debunk Jean Hill, who did undoubtedly exaggerate some things. However, at the end of the day, many of the essential details of her story/ statements ARE corroborated by what she said via the media/ television/reports (shot from knoll, etc.);
-My conclusion is that Craig did see a man looking like Oswald getting into a car.
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Three citizens had similar stories: Marvin Robinson, Roy Cooper and Richard Carr.
Craig’s story was reported on NBC later that afternoon and Chief Jesse Curry was also asked about it.
-Craig admits he does not know foreign rifles---But the other officers on the scene did.
-The only rifle found on the 6th floor was this Carcano. No photo of a Mauser was ever seen because none exists. Yes, but, by that logic, you are calling the other beloved members of the DPD/ law enforcement XXXXX, too, not "just" Craig. It doesn't put Craig in an exclusive club all by himself. Others identified a Mauser.
For the rest, see Jim's comments, above.
If anything, your page strengthens my feelings about Roger-thanks! :)
Wednesday, December 11, 2019
I Was A Middle-Aged JFK Lone-Nutter (Briefly) By Vince Nitwit (me)
I Was A Middle-Aged JFK Lone-Nutter (Briefly) By Vince Nitwit (me)
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Yes, you read that right: for one brief, non-shining moment in 2007, I was swayed (groomed?) by Vince Bugliosi, one of my then-idols for his many non-JFK books: I am posting this (and the above modified meme) because someone recently "found out" that I had once changed my mind. Well, I still believed there were multiple conspiracies to kill Kennedy...I was swayed into thinking Oswald beat them all to the punch via Bugliosi's book. And, when I received a personal letter from him before I was even finished reading his massive tome, I was sold. Life is all the context of the times---I was then recently divorced (since happily remarried), somewhat down on my luck (I never thought I would publish a book, let alone four), and was burned out on the case. My hero from the OJ and Manson murder books--Vincent Bugliosi--asked me for a blurb for the paperback version of his book (he told me it would be out in mid-late 2007). By the time the blurb came out, I came to my senses and denounced what I conveyed to him...but the damage was done. Too late; the blurb appeared in not only Four Days In November (May 2008). To my chagrin, it ALSO appeared in Parkland in 2013! Yikes!I know Pat Speer said he once changed (I think he said as much on this forum). Deb Galentine, a pro-conspiracy researcher I also greatly respect, told me she also briefly changed her mind. I know a couple people who will never admit it, but they were swayed by POSNER's book when they first read it (before the many scathing reviews came out). Heck, even in the movie "JFK", Jim Garrison/ Kevin Costner even says at one point "Maybe Oswald is who everyone says he is and I am just being dumb about it."My point is this: I am very open-minded (perhaps to a fault) and, since I am in somewhat of a unique situation (my research does not stand or fall based on Oswald acting alone or not), it was easy to be star struck by one of my heroes who was requesting a blurb for his forthcoming paperback book. The stars lined up in the wrong way; the imperfect storm, so to speak.I rarely get any flack over this now, although I know Walt Brown, Charles Drago and a couple others held it against me and probably still do. Oh, well: I own my mistakes.I just wanted to vent here for the record so any stragglers out there are not in the dark.Vince Palamara
Monday, December 9, 2019
"The Deputy Interviews: The True Story of J.F.K. Assassination Witness and Former Dallas Deputy Sheriff Roger Dean Craig."
I HIGHLY recommend this fabulous book by Steve Cameron called "The Deputy Interviews: The True Story of J.F.K. Assassination Witness and Former Dallas Deputy Sheriff Roger Dean Craig." I have reads hundreds of books on or related to the assassination of President Kennedy and this one is up there with the best! Very well written, entertaining, and INFORMATIVE; not the same ole same ole. You can obtain the book by writing directly to Steve Cameron on Facebook.
Sunday, December 8, 2019
"My father felt very extremely guilty because he had planned the route of the Dallas trip"
"My father felt very extremely guilty because he had planned the route of the Dallas trip," Jeff Lawson said.
The only Secret Service agents still alive from the Dallas motorcade:
Clint Hill and Paul Landis.
Texas trip agents still alive:
Walt Coughlin (San Antonio), Ron Pontius (Houston), Jim Goodenough (VP LBJ Detail/ Houston), William Duncan (Fort Worth), James F. "Mike" Howard (Fort Worth), Gerald Blaine (Fort Worth), Ken Giannoules (Fort Worth), Gerald O'Rourke (Fort Worth), Michael Shannon (VP LBJ Detail/ Fort Worth), Robert Burke (Austin), Frank Yeager (Austin), Donald Bendickson (VP LBJ Detail/ Austin), Gerald Bechtle (VP LBJ Detail/ Austin)
BOB BURKE
GERALD O'ROURKEThursday, December 5, 2019
Monday, November 25, 2019
I won a prestigious award after my very well-received presentation at the JFK assassination conference 11/22/19
The award I won after my well-received presentation; quite an honor (CLICK ON IMAGES TO ENLARGE):
11/21-11/24/19 JFK assassination conference photos and videos
11/21-11/24/19 JFK assassination conference photos and videos
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It was great seeing renowned author Jim DiEugenio (I am mentioned in his latest book). Jim said something like "Vince, you wanted my photo before Oliver's; thanks!" :)
I shook Oliver Stone's hand and patted him on the back, telling him I was a big fan of his. Jim DiEugenio introduced us.
Oliver Stone:
Oliver Stone:
Jim Gochenour, the gentleman who witnessed first-hand Secret Service agent Elmer Moore making disparaging remarks about JFK and admitted he badgered Dr. Perry into changing his testimony. He testified before both the Church Committee and the HSCA. I previously spoke to him on the phone before meeting him for the first time here! Here we are with author R. Andrew Kiel, as well (I am in his book).
Eyewitness Mary Ann Moorman (a Facebook friend) at the Dealey Plaza remembrance ceremony with JVB.
Dr. Cyril Wecht speaking at the ceremony. He spoke at both conferences. He may be 88 but he was super sharp in his speeches; amazing.
Author Gary Shaw (we also met the next day. We spoke on the phone before; he is a fan, as I am of him):
Researcher Pat Speer--great guy!:
Eyewitness Buell Wesley Frazier, who befriended Oswald at the TSBD and who gave LHO a ride to work on 11/22/63:
Dr. David Mantik. I am mentioned in his book and his daughter Meredith filmed me in 2018 and 2019 for an upcoming documentary:
Trine Day publisher Kris Millegan displaying my four books, as well as other author's books:
Robert Groden and his new bride. Great people!
The award I won after my well-received presentation; quite an honor:
Just a mere sample of 11/22-11/23/19 Dealey Plaza photos I took (out of hundreds):
Pat, there were approximately 150 people at the Trine Day/"Judyth" conference, while I heard from a couple people that there was about that many at CAPA. I didn't take a poll but, from what people told me directly, they thought of this conference mostly as "Trine Day's conference" with a smattering of merely "a JFK assassination conference" and "Judyth's conference" (a couple said "Judyth and Kris' conference."). Her name and face were NOT on the banner or conference program and, compared to 2016, she barely spoke at all between speakers. Kris was far more outspoken, conspicuous and out front than her; not even close. No photos of Judyth hung on the walls or anything- very low key.
Again, perhaps that is why most people in discussions thought of this as a Trine Day conference. The following Trine Day authors spoke at the conference (apart from Kris and Judyth): Mal Hyman, Hubert Clark (also one of JFK's pallbearers), Vince Palamara (me), Edward Haslam, Christopher Fulton, John Delane Williams, Dick Russell, and Barbara Honegger. In addition, Robert Groden, Dr. Cyril Wecht, Gary Shaw, Ed Tatro, Dr. James Campbell, Roger Craig Junior, Marshal Evans, Grover Proctor, and several others.
Here is the conference banner:
Gary Shaw, Robert Groden, Steve Cameron and Roger Craig, Jr. (note the banner--no photos or mention of Judyth whatsoever):
And here is the conference program:
Buell Wesley Frazier attended:
Mary Ann Moorman was an invited guest to the Dealey Plaza ceremony (she spoke to everyone there, as well. She was also interviewed by the Japan news team there for a documentary--they were filming at the conference, as well):
A big example of someone who was at both CAPA and Trine Day's conferences- Beverly Oliver:
A big example of someone who was at both CAPA and Trine Day's conferences-Dr. Cyril Wecht:
Producer Randy Benson of THE SEARCHERS (JFK documentary) fame---who filmed the entire conference, SEPERATE from a Japanese film crew--- with photographer Pete Hymans:
On 12/2/2019 at 3:21 AM, Pat Speer said:
Pat, there were approximately 150 people at the Trine Day/"Judyth" conference, while I heard from a couple people that there was about that many at CAPA. I didn't take a poll but, from what people told me directly, they thought of this conference mostly as "Trine Day's conference" with a smattering of merely "a JFK assassination conference" and "Judyth's conference" (a couple said "Judyth and Kris' conference."). Her name and face were NOT on the banner or conference program and, compared to 2016, she barely spoke at all between speakers. Kris was far more outspoken, conspicuous and out front than her; not even close. No photos of Judyth hung on the walls or anything- very low key.
Again, perhaps that is why most people in discussions thought of this as a Trine Day conference. The following Trine Day authors spoke at the conference (apart from Kris and Judyth): Mal Hyman, Hubert Clark (also one of JFK's pallbearers), Vince Palamara (me), Edward Haslam, Christopher Fulton, John Delane Williams, Dick Russell, and Barbara Honegger. In addition, Robert Groden, Dr. Cyril Wecht, Gary Shaw, Ed Tatro, Dr. James Campbell, Roger Craig Junior, Marshal Evans, Grover Proctor, and several others.
Here is the conference banner:
Gary Shaw, Robert Groden, Steve Cameron and Roger Craig, Jr. (note the banner--no photos or mention of Judyth whatsoever):
And here is the conference program:
Buell Wesley Frazier attended:
Mary Ann Moorman was an invited guest to the Dealey Plaza ceremony (she spoke to everyone there, as well. She was also interviewed by the Japan news team there for a documentary--they were filming at the conference, as well):
A big example of someone who was at both CAPA and Trine Day's conferences- Beverly Oliver:
A big example of someone who was at both CAPA and Trine Day's conferences-Dr. Cyril Wecht:
Producer Randy Benson of THE SEARCHERS (JFK documentary) fame---who filmed the entire conference, SEPERATE from a Japanese film crew--- with photographer Pete Hymans:
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